Poison Ivy:
You are the Miss Manners of Letterboxing! Thanks for your wisdom and let's hope we can all conform to your suggestions.

Have fun and just get out there & box!!!

Mark Pepe
http://markandsuepepe.blogspot.com/

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Beautifully said!

Mom of the Brush Bunch

Poison Ivy Hedge wrote:
Hypothetical conversations : Loosely based on actually happenings.

Yelling is a no no -
Via electronic communications - yelling is signified by all caps.

As in: "PUT THE LID BACK ON MY BOX!"

I understand that, in the moment, strong feelings may cause strong
actions. There may be no way to pinpoint the guilty party and
approach them directly, so yelling at everyone is often a natural
first response. Followed by threats.

A gentle reminder could be more appropriate, followed by the natural
course of unfortunate consequences.

"Please remember to seal the letterbox tightly. I found a few of mine
nearly ruined by moisture. I fear I may have to remove all these
boxes if this continues."

But action often preceeds thought when moved by passion. Inversely,
perhaps the nice way didn't work and now it's no-more-mister-nice-
boxer.

Another - who, perhaps feeling unjustly yelled at and threatened - or
even simply flippant, may respond also in a natural first
instinct. "I don't know you, I'm not even near you, never touched
your boxes and your yelling at me? I don't care for you or your
boxes."

Yet another - also feeling strongly and taking up the cause of the
yelling one, takes a moment out of their day to make blanket
statements and point fingers.

"You're the reason boxing is going to hell. It's people like you that
give boxing a bad name and ruin it for everyone."

Where are the manners?

It reminds me of the trailer for a recent movie - Screaming angrily,
one girl chucks a Bible at the head of a retreating figure of
another, "I am FILLED with the love of Christ!"

If one really wants to prevent the ruination of letterboxing (and the
decline of western civilization)...all they need do is put the
letterbox back where they found it with care.

I'm not really sure why I'm composing this post.

I'll stop now.






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Watch who you're elevatin' to that post, Bub or my associates Vinny
and Sal will be payin' yous a visit.

LP

>Watch who you're elevatin' to that post, Bub or my associates >Vinny and Sal will be payin' yous a visit.

LP


Youse better watch out, Lady Prisspot!
I'm known as the Godfather of Letterboxing, in some circles!
;-)
Mark Pepe



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Exactly how was that "hypothetical" since we all know exactly who
you were talking about- including me? :) You're welcome to
disagree with me & my statements- that doesn't bother me one bit.
But I stand by what I said- a little respect for each other's boxes
will go a long way in preserving this pasttime for everyone.

And, that individual's attitude was certainly unnecessary toward
Phyto. You're welcome to think that my attitude is unnecessary as
well (as you obviously do). Won't bother me one bit. But I hope
that when the chips are down & some knucklehead makes a silly
statement about me & my boxes that someone will stick up for me &
for letterboxing in its finest form.

The Family

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy Hedge"
wrote:
> Hypothetical conversations : Loosely based on actually happenings.

> Yet another - also feeling strongly and taking up the cause of the
> yelling one, takes a moment out of their day to make blanket
> statements and point fingers.

I'm thinking you might be a little to sensitive. Ivy's post was gently
guiding you from a flame war. For which I'm thankful (tip of my hat to you
Ivy) You are obviously looking to start one, with your quick and angry
responses. Now, to the meat of the problem. I've placed many boxes, I don't
keep a p-f-x count, so I can't give an exact number without consulting my
log, which is still in the car from our trip today. They go missing quite
frequently, one went missing before ever getting stamped in! the first time
one went missing (it was my first) it did hurt my feelings, but upon
consideration, I realized I left something that can't defend itself out in
the woods, at the mercy of weather, people, and animals. They will go
missing if the area is frequented by any of these things. I have come to see
it as a life span, some live longer than others. I don't replace. I just
remember fondly, and move on. I figure it's inevitable, sad, but not so
devastating that I feel the need to grab up every letterbox I meet and bring
it home to keep it safe! That ruins the fun for others, and you can't share
your artwork very effectively if it's caught up in a lock box where it will
be safe. I love letterboxing. I love the outdoors-ness of it. The adventure
of it. The art of it. The secret of it, but really, it's just a bit of
eraser and some paper, not a life. The life comes from the visitors to the
box. Flame away, I can take it! After all, this isn't my "real" life, just a
online facsimile! :o)
Kerri,
Lone Pony of the Unlucky Letterboxers

Exactly how was that "hypothetical" since we all know exactly who
you were talking about- including me? :) You're welcome to
disagree with me & my statements- that doesn't bother me one bit.
But I stand by what I said- a little respect for each other's boxes
will go a long way in preserving this pasttime for everyone.

And, that individual's attitude was certainly unnecessary toward
Phyto. You're welcome to think that my attitude is unnecessary as
well (as you obviously do). Won't bother me one bit. But I hope
that when the chips are down & some knucklehead makes a silly
statement about me & my boxes that someone will stick up for me &
for letterboxing in its finest form.

The Family



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With apologies to Bryan (not Brian) Ferry

It's My L'box

Nobody knows where my L'box has gone
But newbie left the same time.
Which clues were those in her hand
I hope they weren't one of mine
It's my L'box and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, Cry if I want to
You would cry too, if it happened to you.
Read all my box clues, keep looking all `round
But leave me alone for a while
`til I post my agnony
I have no reason to smile
It's my L'box and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, Cry if I want to
You would cry too, if it happened to you.
Newbie replanted my L'box a new
But not where she found it
So, it has met it's demise
Curse Time for releasing this twit.
It's my L'box and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, Cry if I want to
You would cry too, if it happened to you.


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy Hedge"
wrote:
-SNIP (with big shears) -
> But action often preceeds thought when moved by passion.

Loved it!

--- mrswhinner wrote:

> With apologies to Bryan (not Brian) Ferry
>
> It's My L'box
>
> Nobody knows where my L'box has gone
> But newbie left the same time.
> Which clues were those in her hand
> I hope they weren't one of mine
> It's my L'box and I'll cry if I want to
> Cry if I want to, Cry if I want to
> You would cry too, if it happened to you.
> Read all my box clues, keep looking all `round
> But leave me alone for a while
> `til I post my agnony
> I have no reason to smile
> It's my L'box and I'll cry if I want to
> Cry if I want to, Cry if I want to
> You would cry too, if it happened to you.
> Newbie replanted my L'box a new
> But not where she found it
> So, it has met it's demise
> Curse Time for releasing this twit.
> It's my L'box and I'll cry if I want to
> Cry if I want to, Cry if I want to
> You would cry too, if it happened to you.
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy Hedge"
> wrote:
> -SNIP (with big shears) -
> > But action often preceeds thought when moved by passion.
>
>
>



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Another breath of fresh air... P-IV I so appreciate your sense of
humor and ability to exercise it at precisely the right moments.

I fear I am guilty of "blanket statements" but hey, it gets cold up
here in the north country ;-) My brain freezes.

SpringChick


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy Hedge"
wrote:
> Hypothetical conversations : Loosely based on actually happenings.
>
> Yelling is a no no -
> Via electronic communications - yelling is signified by all caps.
>
> As in: "PUT THE LID BACK ON MY BOX!"
>
> I understand that, in the moment, strong feelings may cause strong
> actions. There may be no way to pinpoint the guilty party and
> approach them directly, so yelling at everyone is often a natural
> first response. Followed by threats.
>
> A gentle reminder could be more appropriate, followed by the
natural
> course of unfortunate consequences.
>
> "Please remember to seal the letterbox tightly. I found a few of
mine
> nearly ruined by moisture. I fear I may have to remove all these
> boxes if this continues."
>
> But action often preceeds thought when moved by passion.
Inversely,
> perhaps the nice way didn't work and now it's no-more-mister-nice-
> boxer.
>
> Another - who, perhaps feeling unjustly yelled at and threatened -
or
> even simply flippant, may respond also in a natural first
> instinct. "I don't know you, I'm not even near you, never touched
> your boxes and your yelling at me? I don't care for you or your
> boxes."
>
> Yet another - also feeling strongly and taking up the cause of the
> yelling one, takes a moment out of their day to make blanket
> statements and point fingers.
>
> "You're the reason boxing is going to hell. It's people like you
that
> give boxing a bad name and ruin it for everyone."
>
> Where are the manners?
>
> It reminds me of the trailer for a recent movie - Screaming
angrily,
> one girl chucks a Bible at the head of a retreating figure of
> another, "I am FILLED with the love of Christ!"
>
> If one really wants to prevent the ruination of letterboxing (and
the
> decline of western civilization)...all they need do is put the
> letterbox back where they found it with care.
>
> I'm not really sure why I'm composing this post.
>
> I'll stop now.